The forums, mine-imator as a software. will never die quiet.. I know people never really look at me for much anymore. but i feel like i should tell a little story. I started using mine-imator at a time when i was about to give up animation in general. my frustration to get started on it made me really mad and maya/c4d didn't help. At the same day my then later close friend frossa made meet the pyro in mine-imator. i instantly grabbed mine-imator and started playing around. at the time we didn't have any X/Y/Z coordinates on screen. only on settings. it was very friendly and unfriendly at the same time. it was simple and it worked. i made my first animation i put on youtube in mine-imator and when the forums opened. i joined in imminently. I grew with the community. making my then retired pilot animation for a series that fell flat on its face. I meet new friends that i would still talk to this day, i even had a chance to be a chat mod. (Although i didn't do much) All in 3 years. While i have moved on to my previously really hard programs like maya (not C4D.) i still appropriate mine-imator. thank you for the program david and thanks for all the fun i have had in here. and onto the next year.