Ian_The_One

I think there should be a base project in MI that you could customize like in gms.
Thats it.

oh you came back form your crypt once again.

go make a program on an engine that does not support what you are wanting to do,then make it farely great,get one of the members of your comunity complain about minor things an boss you around then come back and les see if you will act the same way

thats not used anymore you would have to make a resourcepack.
its more usefull and more customizeable.

I'm finding this hard to believe, considering you've literally never posted a single creation and done nothing but complain constantly about the program for the past five years. I've never even seen you thank Nimi even once for all of your whims he's catered to; you just immediately start complaining about something else no-one had a problem with.

Like I said before SHUT UP IAN THE BUTT

"you shouldn't criticize this because there are worst models out there" this is literally your argument.

He made a suggestion.

he wasn't talking about newcomers to the forums you dimwit.

minecraft isn't made out of voxels ?.

minecraft isn't made out of voxels ?.

he wasn't talking about newcomers to the forums you dimwit.

He made a suggestion.

He made a suggestion.

He made a suggestion.

Jeez, I forgot giving suggestions to creators wasn't allowed. I'll remind Red not to give feedback next time 


On a serious note, the feedback on Red's input is very disappointing. A lot of the commentators who replied have based their opinions on ill-informed assumptions. I would not like to let this stand unexplained. (Yes, I know I'm late, and there are a lot of comments to catch up with)

One of the seemingly common counter-arguments to Red's suggestion is that MC's pumpkin pie item is cylindrical, therefore the 3D model should be allowed to follow that geometry.

However, it seems that you haven't drawn the conclusion that MC's item textures are often very different from the actual 3D models used in the game. Minecraft's cake is a great example. Obviously, the item is cylindrical but the 3D object is a square. Thus this counter argument is very flawed, seemingly as it doesn't look at the rest of the game for further information on standards.
My point? MC's item textures do not depict the 3D model's geometry.
 
It appears that many of the defending commentators here have made a devastating misconception, believing that Red's statement was in some way "forcing" his style opinion on the creator. However if you actually look at Red's comment, you'll notice that it was actually a suggestion, one that could be denied or accepted depending on the creator's preferences. That is what we do here, after all.
After a while, some members were already cancelling Red's suggestion with their own opinions before the creator even got a say in what he wanted to do with the suggestion. It's the creator's choice, not yours. Sure, you can state your opinion, but please don't try to negate someone else's with yours. You don't get to choose what happens with the model either. Maybe offer some of your own suggestions, instead of telling someone else to back off because they attempted to help the creator.
 
Not sure where the "harsh" description came from. The suggestion wasn't harsh at all, just plain and straight to the point with no rudeness. Heck, the suggestion was only 5 words, I'm not sure what's so harsh about that. All other messages sent by Red and I were simply defending the validity of the suggestion. These messages were not even directed to the model or the creator, which is where the assumed "harsh"ness is presumed to be directed to.
We weren't even harsh in our defense to the claims that were made. Since when was upholding your own claims considered this preposterous?
Your opinion isn't "incorrect", nobody's is. Please don't bring irrelevant self pity into this.
Some stated that there was a "flame war" happening in the topic, when in reality Red and I had backed off the field while everyone else attacked the suggestion. A very one-sided flame war, if anything.
Once again, we never forced the creator to change anything, it was only a suggestion. Now about "Filled with such things", since when was suggesting considered a bad thing? I'd rather the forums not leave behind users suggesting things to creators.
 
Honestly confused as to where the description "pissy" came from, as far as I remember, suggesting an alternative wasn't labeled as "pissy". Both Red and I acted respectfully while defending the suggestion's validity. Kinda disappointing to hear this come from MI's Visual Designer ?
 
Our intention was not to make the creator feel bad, it is obviously not expected for them to get upset about a suggestion. I have a feeling this might've branched off from all the negativity to Red's comment, possibly giving a skewed perception to the creator. Definitely would've helped if you all hadn't attacked it ?
Funny how you mention "mass-downvoting", while your opposing side downvoted significantly more than Red and I ever did. You don't have much room to talk.
Once again you claim that our comments are "harsh". I touched on this earlier.
Since when was calmly suggesting things considered "toxic"? 
 
Neither Red nor I ever stated that the model was ever "wrong". Red's suggestion wasn't a complaint; there's a difference.
 
The funny thing is that Red and I stopped replying fairly early, even before the wave of overly-defensive and ill-informed comments arrived.
 
I don't like making long posts like these, but I wanted to make some things clear. 
This post was not directed at the creator or the model itself; it is directed at the users mentioned.
 
It honestly saddens me to see the community attack such simple suggestions like this ?

this is the stupidest mini drama ive ever seen on the forums

(UN)OFFICIAL NOTICE: NO CRITICISM BEYOND THIS POINT. (unless you just want a pointless argument)

just asking, when did red ever say this model was "wrong"?
he just said it didn't fit with mc's style and said mc isn't a voxel game.(which it isn't)
 

"you shouldn't criticize this because there are worst models out there" this is literally your argument.

"you shouldn't criticize this because there are worst models out there" this is literally your argument.

just asking, when did red ever say this model was "wrong"?
he just said it didn't fit with mc's style and said mc isn't a voxel game.(which it isn't)
 

this has become SharpWinds average topic